solid mounts Thursday, 01-Feb-01 19:10:59 63.252.192.151 writes: in a empi solid mount kit, how and where do you mount the small strap? drill through the "forks" in the frame? thanks wanna be

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I am looking at the directions now. Either drill through the horns (lame idea IMO) or weld it on. (not much better). I would use the berg mid mount instead, or use the center strap from padded mount kit. (n/t) (Mike Lawless) (01-Feb-01 22:14:51) BEST BET, dont drill the horns straps dont work. run a solid nose cone mount and leave the straps off. along with the solid bell mount of course. later (n/t) (dave from redding) (01-Feb-01 22:17:22) Sometimes you have to use them, like in a Baja or Manx where you can't mount a traction bar. Also I saw a set up where the frame horns where braced to the rear shock towers, looks like that would work also. (n/t) ( James2) (02-Feb-01 00:01:58) Cutom & Speed Parts make this 'Torque Bar' setup, they have been discussed this last week on the John Maher Racing forum. They look very good, saw them last year at the Volksworld show, quite expensive but all the big engined German Lookers over here are running them. For pictures try this site http://www.hsl.co.uk/VW/Tech/TorqueBar.html (n/t) (Paul (Der Bahnstormerz)) (02-Feb-01 12:25:40) Re: BEST BET, dont drill the horns straps dont work. run a solid nose cone mount and leave the straps off. along with the solid bell mount of course. later (Muffler Mike) (02-Feb-01 12:08:21) Re: solid mounts (wanna be) (01-Feb-01 22:29:58) As in most things high performance, it depends. Do you stand on the gas, then side-step the clutch? Or just spirited street driving? If it is the first one, you need the traction bar. It's just a good idea for a hi-perf VW (n/t) (Mike Lawless) (01-Feb-01 22:34:09) A traction bar is a peice of steel that runs across the rear of the engine (underneath) and supports it from pushing downward when accelerating. It halps eliminate wheelhop, and helps preserve your engine mounts (yes, I know they are technically transaxle mounts, so don't even go there, guys). Thebar is much less expensive than say, a new nosecone, or a new axle (due to wheel hop). I think the T-bar is a "must" have. Anyone else? (n/t) (bugly) (01-Feb-01 23:58:51) Re: Ack, what about a Manx though? Can't mount a traction bar on one, no place to do it(on mine, at least). (n/t) (Ron Bullard) (02-Feb-01 05:45:56) Re: Re: Ack, what about a Manx though? Can't mount a traction bar on one, no place to do it(on mine, at least). (Muffler Mike) (02-Feb-01 11:53:25) Yo wannabe (kaizo) (02-Feb-01 03:40:59)

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In a way i would have to disagree. i tried one of those solid nose cone mount and even with a traction bar, i flexed things enough to crack the nose cone and watch it leak oil. So i learned my lession right away.

And believe it or not, to this day i am running a stock rubber nose cone mount with a padded strap. Although after 10 years of using the same thing i will most likely fab up some sort of real intermediate mount or get one from bergs because i have a gift cert that i need to spend with them before may. With the added hp that i will have this year, i would hate to see the strap brake and send the front of the gear box throught the package tray. (ok maybe not quite that drastic)

Muffler Mike

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i thought about the padded mount. what about a traction bar? will the strap be needed?

wanna be

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I guess they make these things on the other side of the pond, but looks as though it may work for your aplication

http://www.hsl.co.uk/VW/Tech/TorqueBar.html

another option may be to tie in the role bar to the frame horns

Muffler Mike